Dean vs. Clark (Continued)

As I've said in this blog recently, I am for Clark. I've taken some heat for that stance, but sitting here a couple weeks after making that decision, I honestly think its the right place to be if you are a Democrat that wants to win back the white house.

Josh Marshall put up a post on his Talking Points Memo blog on Friday evening that captures the essence of where we are. Dean doesn't have a chance of beating Bush but he's almost instoppable in the Democratic primary.

Add to that this morning's article in the New York Times about the Super Tuesday primaries and its clear to me that the only candidate who has a chance of stopping Dean is Clark. And he needs to win big on Super Tuesday to do that.

By the way, check out the picture of Dean in the NY Times article. That picture says it all to me about Dean. He's way too defensive to make it in the bigtime against Bush. He's going to get slaughtered.

Comments

[Bennett Zucker]

I sat through an hour of Wesley Clark on C-SPAN at a public forum in NH. I have a fundamental question for you about Clark - and all of the Dems, for that matter.

As an investor and businessman, how do you reconcile supporting any candidate for whom "the corporation" is the enemy? There is a presumption of "people" vs "the corporation" in every stump speech of every one of these candidates, Clark included. He sounds like he wants to spend to us to prosperity like every other Democrat, with free health care for all, and the like.

I don't get it. Much as W & Co. are seen as the big bad guys who play to big companies and big wealth, at least they understand that consumers and businesses are the ones who create jobs and success and prosperity, not the government. Clark strikes me as one more guy coming off the government dole and looking to get right back on.

This us against them mentality is going to make for an especially brutal 04 campaign, I fear.

[Robin]

I think Bennett raised a great question that I hope gets answered.

Further, in regards to Freds statement, "Dean doesn't have a chance of beating Bush but he's almost instoppable in the Democratic primary."

My very simple question is: WHY? Considering Bush was never even elected in the first place, upon what do you base such a hands down, definitive statement? Mind you, I say this not on behalf of Dean, I say it on behalf of ANY democratic candidate. As far as I'm concerned, since Bush was never elected in the first place, almost anyone from the Democratic field has a better than decent shot. Fred, you unfair bias is showing. At least give us reasons (an unflattering photo of Dean is simply not enough).

[Moderate Voter]

Bennett - As a businessman, I fundamentally believe in the capitalistic process. I do believe that company's and entrepreneurs are the engines of prosperity. However, I also believe that corporations are mostly driven by one ideal: money. This means that they do not care about other ideals that are beneficial for society like: charity, compassion, treating people humanely, etc... Corporations are designed to efficiently promote their own survival at the expense of everything else and many have become very toxic to our society. Look what the energy companies did to California. They were able to get this position because of powerful corporate lobbying of the Republican party of the state.
What I am trying to say is that to let corporations run completely unfettered is not the proper way to run a society. Some amount of governmental control is required to lessen the harsh effects of the volatility inherent in a capitalistic society.

[Bennett Zucker]

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Our difference of opinion on the role of government in a free, capitalistic society is as clear and old as the Republic itself.

As a matter of convenience, corporations have long been recognized under law as "persons," when in fact, corporations are collections of individual owners. This is not so very different than each of us "owning" our government through elected representatives.

Breakdowns frequently occur when government exerts too much authority over matters outside Constitutional boundaries, not just when businesses go too far in pursuit of what you describe as the "single ideal" of money.

The idea that it is only government or only business that needs to be reined in is the root of an "us against them" enmity that can kill rational dialogue.

As individual consumers we can choose not to do business with "toxic" companies. As voters, we're generally forced to choose from among uniformly dishonest politicians.

I trust consumer power to put bad businesses down more than I trust the electorate to put principled people in office.

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